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Thanks.Nice list of links. Thanks.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1156033339104546642006-08-19T20:22:00.000-04:002006-08-19T20:22:00.000-04:00Foreign Aidhttp://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/tra...Foreign Aid<BR/>http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/trade/files/98-916.pdf<BR/><BR/><BR/>Clean BReak<BR/>http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm<BR/>http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1392<BR/><BR/><BR/>Juan cole paper on Israel influence<BR/>http://www.juancole.com/2006/04/petition-to-conference-of-presidents.html<BR/><BR/>AIPAC v. 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Not some individual.<BR/>Right now we need to take some extreme measures to right the almost sunken ship that is the USA! <BR/>Go ahead, ask me, "What constitutional laws do you think bu$h and his cronies have violated"? <BR/>But before you do, please, use your imagination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146758826055944802006-05-04T12:07:00.000-04:002006-05-04T12:07:00.000-04:00Slightly related to the last few comments: it seem...Slightly related to the last few comments: it seems that the visible non-administration PNACers trying to distance themselves from the administration are thinking at least partly about the legal angle. <BR/><BR/>As RSK suggests, having the idea and acting on it in a way that may be illegal are two different things. <BR/><BR/>Perle, Buckley, Kagan, Kristol and Fukuyama are just a few of the big name PNACers we're now seeing deny direct responsibility for anything that may or may not have happened in the Bush White House.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146740042781107812006-05-04T06:54:00.000-04:002006-05-04T06:54:00.000-04:00What law do you think PNAC has violated? Specifica...<I>What law do you think PNAC has violated? Specifically, I mean? By putting forth their ideas...</I><BR/><BR/>Scott, Meribeth pretty much covered it. <BR/>Aside from your basic moral laws it will be hard to bring a case against PNAC. <BR/>Of course I'd love to see this whole administration put in the Hague. That would make up most of PNAC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146660824389182752006-05-03T08:53:00.000-04:002006-05-03T08:53:00.000-04:00Something else I consider when looking at the Fede...Something else I consider when looking at the Federalist Papers--they were written by three guys. (Hamilton, Jay, and, I think, Madison). They did not represent the entire "framing" body, and several things in the Fed Papers are contrary to what the Constitution actually says. <BR/><BR/>In other words, they're not the Constitution.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146655407481558482006-05-03T07:23:00.000-04:002006-05-03T07:23:00.000-04:00We have had 6 years of lies, graft, corruption, bl...We have had 6 years of lies, graft, corruption, blatant cronyism, and "interpretation" of laws that favor the very very few and powerful. That does not sound like America.<BR/><BR/>We have had powerful lobby groups and "think tanks" which are funded by large corporations manipulating the government process as well as setting forth an agenda that serves the purpose of the monied and powerful.<BR/><BR/>We are in a war that was fanagled, falsified and set in motion (note: I avoided the word planned) many years in advance. To what purpose? Humanitarian? Well, at least that is what they are calling it now since all the lies (aka bad intelligence) are coming forth. If we were so concerned about humanitarian efforts and concerned about dictators (aka evil doerers) then why aren't we in the Sudan? Why did we allow Rowanda to happen? Why are we ignoring Uganda? Why was "ethnic cleansing" a non issue?<BR/><BR/>We made a story for Viet Nam and we have made a story for Iraq, and we are after the natural resources once again. To set up a situation that is false in an effort to take what is not ours (by overt theft of making a deal with a connection) and to accomplish these ends people must die (aka collateral damage..cost of war) sounds like a crime to me. We have laws against this in our country. But then I forgot...our Prez can do whatever he finds necessary....<BR/><BR/>Yep, they planned for it in advance. The people who were involved in the idea (aka planning) were installed in posts of very high power and the coffers of big business were opened to help this along in exchange for more BlingBling.<BR/><BR/>Crap, we never learn from our past mistakes and in this case we can't seem to learn from our very recent mistakes. It isn't in the past, it is now and will be into the future. To ignore is and "move on" is something we cannot do because we have a responsibility to know the facts, and refuse the art of denial that our present government has developed to an art form.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146605514385865822006-05-02T17:31:00.000-04:002006-05-02T17:31:00.000-04:00Oh...there is a law against that crap, they used t...Oh...there is a law against that crap, they used to call it 'war profiteering'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146604525295313992006-05-02T17:15:00.000-04:002006-05-02T17:15:00.000-04:00ScottCrap is crap, and groups that generate crap s...Scott<BR/>Crap is crap, and groups that generate crap should have any future ideas given a bit more scrutiny, to keep crap out of the system. PNAC may not have been the only crap source, but any future "suggestions" from them should be concidered suspect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146592675307589602006-05-02T13:57:00.000-04:002006-05-02T13:57:00.000-04:00I suppose the more important question, in all seri...<I>I suppose the more important question, in all seriousness, is why should we care whether people from PNAC were involved in the planning or not?</I><BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, crap is crap! And when an idea starts effecting the lives of human beings then there should be a law against it! PNAC and its 'crap' have brought nothing but destruction, grief, graft and corruption under the guise of a bunch of good ole boys. How much longer are the people of America willing to stand by these good ole boys and watch it be destroyed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146591754124778472006-05-02T13:42:00.000-04:002006-05-02T13:42:00.000-04:00Can we get "Colbert" to question President Bush on...Can we get "Colbert" to question President Bush on the PNAC connection, he did such a great job with William Kristol the other night, think what he could do with the regular people, Kristol is a regular TV personna on the F channel Great article JeffMike (Beetle) Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17607744991190390695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1146590011250127852006-05-02T13:13:00.000-04:002006-05-02T13:13:00.000-04:00Jeff, I'm glad you brought this up. There are ma...Jeff, I'm glad you brought this up. <BR/>There are many in America who still don't know or were aware of the PNAC agenda. 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