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I think that the fact that they use such verbiage today without reservation (or any sense of irony, for that matter) is a striking testament to how <I>brazen</I> our political and military establishments have become since then (and I thought they were pretty insufferable back then!).<BR/><BR/>I'm about halfway through the book. Off-the-cuff-review: Bravo! (or how do they say it in the military? "Outstanding!"). There's nothing quite like good satirical writing (wish there was more around, we sure could use it).<BR/><BR/>Reminds me somewhat of a certain other military satire (and Milo Minderbinder would certainly be at home with some of you characters).jpwhitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975430453557627368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-34952463978371659062008-05-02T21:35:00.000-04:002008-05-02T21:35:00.000-04:00Maybe you have already read this blogg post by Cra...Maybe you have already read <B><A HREF="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2007/07/afghanistan.html" REL="nofollow">this blogg post by Craig Murray</A></B>, former British Ambassador to the Central<BR/>Asian Republic of Uzbekistan. It is a revealing one and really worth reading. I strongly recommend i if you have not.<BR/><BR/>Kerstin<BR/>MotvallsbloggenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-17451243343506885172008-05-02T11:22:00.000-04:002008-05-02T11:22:00.000-04:00Cmdr. Huber,What do you make of the argument that ...Cmdr. Huber,<BR/><BR/>What do you make of the argument that we lost Vietnam because we didn't insist on land redistribution in Vietnam, as we had in Japan, Taiwan, and Korea? <BR/><BR/>In the countries where we did, the peasantry became fanatically anti-Communist, those where we didn't, such as Vietnam and the Philippines were plagued by chronic insurgencies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-43407659375223720102008-05-02T10:43:00.000-04:002008-05-02T10:43:00.000-04:00WK, Many thanks for the link.WK, <BR/><BR/>Many thanks for the link.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-90197586798397304812008-05-02T10:36:00.000-04:002008-05-02T10:36:00.000-04:00Jeff,Sen. Fulbright's speech was posted up at Amer...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>Sen. Fulbright's speech was posted up at American Prospect.<BR/><BR/>http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=04&year=2008&base_name=it_is_a_curiosity_of_human_natAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-16844353889806975652008-05-02T09:04:00.000-04:002008-05-02T09:04:00.000-04:00Commander,Outstanding post. Please continue.Commander,<BR/>Outstanding post. Please continue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-16437030058422273842008-05-02T05:52:00.000-04:002008-05-02T05:52:00.000-04:00i would venture to say that most americans are not...i would venture to say that most americans are not aware that the U.S. lost the war in vietnam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-59774040515357529712008-05-02T04:35:00.000-04:002008-05-02T04:35:00.000-04:00Nunya, I now think about how compliant the press w...Nunya, <BR/><BR/>I now think about how compliant the press was in helping us think Afghanistan was a great victory. <BR/><BR/>WK, <BR/><BR/>I wonder how long it would have taken before Rush got busted for drugs. <BR/><BR/>Montag, <BR/><BR/>Yes, I didn't dwell on that aspect too much on this essay, but the Army never wants to admit that IT lost in Vietnam. <BR/><BR/>John, <BR/><BR/>Yep, Mis and Mal, the feasance brothers, struck again. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-28446078583992181592008-05-02T02:06:00.000-04:002008-05-02T02:06:00.000-04:00War is a hard mistress. The best measure of who w...War is a hard mistress. The best measure of who won has always ultimately been who possesses the field at the end of the day.<BR/><BR/>Iraq is doubly sad because it was an avoidable conflict waged for the worst reasons.<BR/><BR/>But it will be Afghanistan--a conflict we desperately needed to win--where our defeat will be bitterest. We had the means and our leadership, through mis-, mal-, and non-feasance, screwed it all to hell.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15418129339565606380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-19643972164005859782008-05-01T21:57:00.000-04:002008-05-01T21:57:00.000-04:00As German Generalisimo Erich Von Ludendorf said af...As German Generalisimo Erich Von Ludendorf said after losing WWI, "Ja, we were STABBED IN THE BACK!" Never mind that he was begging the wartime German government for an Armistice because the Allies were steamrolling his forces back into Germany--it was all the fault of those darned gutless civilians.<BR/><BR/>I think the stab-in-the-back excuse is so popular because it's like "no fault divorce." You don't have to take responsibility for your own failures. YOU were just a victim of circumstances. And it's always great to feel the self-righteousness of being a victim, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>They claim we lost them Vietnam<BR/>Because we had no guts<BR/>This comes from valiant creampuffs<BR/>Who wouldn't risk their butts<BR/><BR/>When first they suckered us into war<BR/>They promised it would be grand<BR/>We hear only the bugles at funerals now<BR/>Instead of a marching bandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-56561930025552717762008-05-01T20:02:00.000-04:002008-05-01T20:02:00.000-04:00Great stuff.BTW Jeff, I've wargamed it, and if onl...Great stuff.<BR/><BR/>BTW Jeff, I've wargamed it, and if only Misters Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Nugent and O Reilly (and their subordinates) had been able to serve, we would have been victorious in Vietnam. :-PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-69682081239676550962008-05-01T19:59:00.000-04:002008-05-01T19:59:00.000-04:00Ahh, yes and bin Laden would be quite familiar wit...Ahh, yes and bin Laden would be quite familiar with our Nemesis the USSR going down in Afghanistan, wouldn't he?<BR/><BR/>Amazing how word gets arund isn't it? When I first saw the <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm813muGhVg " REL="nofollow">Stauber vs Zelinck YouTube link </A> it had been watched around 800 times. Now?<BR/>38 thousand times.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/83555" REL="nofollow"> The Pentagon Strangles Our Economy:</A><BR/> Why the U.S. Has Gone Broke<BR/>By Chalmers Johnson (first degree was in Economics, was Naval Officer WWII & Japan, in the 50's and CIA consultant)<BR/> also wrote <A HREF="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174925/chalmers_johnson_teaching_imperialism_101" REL="nofollow"> this </A> review of a book on Rand, everybody's favorite think tank.nunyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833886980442919570noreply@blogger.com