tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post114814497861540310..comments2024-03-26T05:18:53.709-04:00Comments on Pen and Sword: Much Ado About EnglishJeff Huberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148393770608382552006-05-23T10:16:00.000-04:002006-05-23T10:16:00.000-04:00Why is illegal immigration coming to the front bur...<I>Why is illegal immigration coming to the front burner now? Because the public finally forced it there.</I><BR/><BR/>The public didn't force the immigration issue to the front burner. It was mostly the media (broken record, Lou Dobbs), Dr. James Dobson and the teacher who started the minutemen project, Chris Simcox and his ilk who are afraid of brown people becoming the super-race.<BR/>Google that Simcox character, I really feel sorry for him. He's sick and needs to see a doctor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148389739851109632006-05-23T09:08:00.000-04:002006-05-23T09:08:00.000-04:00Ariadne, Like so many things, there's been so much...Ariadne, <BR/><BR/>Like so many things, there's been so much urban legending on this subject that it's really hard to tell how much the multi-language services really contribute to immigrants not learning English. <BR/><BR/>I've known quite a few immigrants who spent many, many years here and never learned the language well, but they weren't Spanish speakers, so the multi-language stuff didn't apply in their cases.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148325132157793332006-05-22T15:12:00.000-04:002006-05-22T15:12:00.000-04:00Ariadne, I've heard the lament about US born stude...Ariadne, <BR/><BR/>I've heard the lament about US born students lagging behind foreign born students in English schools before. <BR/><BR/>I haven't seen any reliable data on the ESL issue, but my impression is that the immigrants who tend to not pick up the language tend to be the older ones who live in an environment (neighborhood, city, family environment, etc.) where they can get by without, but that the kids tend to fall into the language quite well. <BR/><BR/>Is this your impression? <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148318773084039022006-05-22T13:26:00.000-04:002006-05-22T13:26:00.000-04:00I too was talking about "the public" and you know ...I too was talking about "the public" and you know it. The public that's telling Bush he's doing a bad job and that--according to some polls, at least--they no longer want the GOP in control of Congress. <BR/><BR/>If you're implying that immigration became a hot button item in DC because all of a sudden, last month, "the public" started writing their representatives tons and tons of letters and e-mails about it, I think you know how transparent that is. <BR/><BR/>As to the "cabal" that drives public discourse, well, I also think you know good and well that there is one. You and I don't introduce legislation then swarm the talks shows to discuss it. <BR/><BR/>And are you actually suggesting that administrations--especially this one--don't use the media to control public discourse? <BR/><BR/>Or are you going to assert, as you often do, that that's conspiracy theory thinking? The WHIG and OSI never existed, the administration isn't targeting reporters and whistle blowers, Karl Rove is a figment of everyone's imagination? <BR/><BR/>Young Mister Bush doesn't make a habit of appearing on TV before a hand picked audience? <BR/><BR/>Top administration figures don't appear on Rush and FOX News and the rest of the admin friendly media whenever it needs to get the "word" out? <BR/><BR/>The administration doesn't attack its political opponents through proxies? <BR/><BR/>The government, through its own agencies or contractors like Rendon don't stage phony events like the fall of Hussein's statue? <BR/><BR/>That the administration and its agencies haven't directly paid journalists to promote their programs? <BR/><BR/>That all those fake news spots were real news spots? <BR/><BR/>Jeff Gannon was a real reporter? <BR/><BR/>The Pentagon told us the truth about Pat Tillman and the POW girl and GITMO and Abu Ghraib and how things have been going in Iraq and Afghanistan? <BR/><BR/>Don't come in here and make statements like your last one again. Next time, you're off the island. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Have a nice day.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148316123942168532006-05-22T12:42:00.000-04:002006-05-22T12:42:00.000-04:00What people, Scott? The people who have driven Bu...What people, Scott? The people who have driven Bush's opinion ratings so low that he needed to come up with a distractor issue?Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148314416617979002006-05-22T12:13:00.000-04:002006-05-22T12:13:00.000-04:00They're legitimate issues that aren't being addres...They're legitimate issues that aren't being addressed in a legitimate manner. <BR/><BR/>If the real issue is Homeland Security, why is it just now, five years into the so called war on terror, coming to the front burner. <BR/><BR/>If illegal immigration is the real issue, why does the main bone of contention seem to be about which illegal immigrants get to stay?Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148297960843622762006-05-22T07:39:00.000-04:002006-05-22T07:39:00.000-04:00Illegal immigration in not the issue. Call it a r...Illegal immigration in not the issue. Call it a red herring if you want. The issue is UNsecured borders. We have heard that the terrorists are coming to get us, 9/11, 9/11..ad nausea. Yet, our fearless leader has chosen to go fight in Iraq, put the next generation in debt, kill thousands of people...but refuses to take care of things at home. And now people are finally beginning to look at the UNsecured boarders...as well as other issues..and are saying fix it. Why is the Mexican military vehicles and personel (real members or not) crossing our boarders, and nothing done about it?? (a well placed grenade would stop that foolishness) So instead of calling it piss poor boarder security he/they are calling it illegal immigration. Typical of what the last 7 years has been.<BR/><BR/>Yes, certain areas of the country has problems with the services they are supposed to offer (by law) to illegals. And this needs to be addressed locally and federally. We need to inforce the laws that are on the books now, and get rid of the loopholes. (Which is probably impossible)<BR/><BR/>From my own experience, the people I have worked with, and have done work which I am familir...who may or may not have been truly illegal, is superior to much of what was done with "home grown." I know I will probably get blasted, but I stand by what I have seen and experienced. Also, the peaceful demonstrations by the Latino communities recently, have impressed me. I don't see that kind of response in our "own" populace. Where are the protests against the war? taxes? torture? corruption?<BR/><BR/>Like seven of six said "it is a deflection of attention" away from the fact that Bush has is a total FUBAR and the country is going to pay for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148297845638263302006-05-22T07:37:00.000-04:002006-05-22T07:37:00.000-04:00Yep. A red herring.Yep. A red herring.Jeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148270418988553162006-05-22T00:00:00.000-04:002006-05-22T00:00:00.000-04:00Jeff, I look at it as splitting the Republicans i...Jeff, I look at it as splitting the Republicans into 2 distinct factions, moderates and hardliners. Anything to split the GOP is good in my book. <BR/>There is no doubt that this Administration has failed in everything it has done. That's the part that is so scandalous!<BR/><BR/>It certainly brings attention to another issue facing America: We always have to hate something or somebody. Now it is hate the illegal immigrant or the immigrant issue. <BR/>Something to deflect attention from what is really messed up with America, the Bush Administration!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1148160239157659122006-05-20T17:23:00.000-04:002006-05-20T17:23:00.000-04:00La misma sopa, excedente calentado (véase: enmiend...La misma sopa, excedente calentado (véase: enmienda bandera-que se quema; enmienda de la unión-protección; Schiavo, Terri; etc). <BR/><BR/>Same soup, warmed over (see: flag-burning amendment; marriage-protection amendment; Schiavo, Terri; etc).Jeff (no, the other one)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04030611459552848949noreply@blogger.com