tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post112024968057148063..comments2024-03-26T05:18:53.709-04:00Comments on Pen and Sword: Meanwhile, Back at the Other Insurgency...Jeff Huberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120425617283318342005-07-03T17:20:00.000-04:002005-07-03T17:20:00.000-04:00Bingo, Scott. Casualties happen, no matter how we...Bingo, Scott. Casualties happen, no matter how well you plan and execute. <BR/><BR/>The point here is that, at a small unit level, our most elite forces got beaten by a technically inferior force using superior, assymetrical tactics. <BR/><BR/>And that's what Conway was trying to cover up with his "lucky shot" comment. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120340327386891142005-07-02T17:38:00.000-04:002005-07-02T17:38:00.000-04:00Karen, I've said this elswhere--when the enemy man...Karen, <BR/><BR/>I've said this elswhere--when the enemy manuevers you into fighting on its terms, you already halfway to losing. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120339487679702312005-07-02T17:24:00.000-04:002005-07-02T17:24:00.000-04:00Karen posting, not Doug.Dear Jeff,Thanks for the k...Karen posting, not Doug.<BR/><BR/>Dear Jeff,<BR/>Thanks for the kind words on my post on Doug's blog. About today's post, most people don't realize that the terrain/environment is very rough in that part of Afghanistan. Torrential downpours and high winds are grounding U.S. helicopters and this is comparatively good weather for the area; winter is supposedly much worse. On Thursday, the BBC reporter in Afghanistan said that U.S. troops were attempting to reach the crash site using ground troops and MULES to carry equipment. Honest to god, they were using pack animals. I don't have anywhere near your level of expertise in military knowledge, Jeff. However, it appears to me that, although the U.S. high-tech military machine can use fighter jets with guided missiles to bomb enemy fighters using satellite and drone aircraft surveillance, ground combat is another matter altogether. <BR/><BR/>KarenDouglas Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17554788570160506080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120333297696781532005-07-02T15:41:00.000-04:002005-07-02T15:41:00.000-04:00One other thing, Scott. "Defeat" is the exact cor...One other thing, Scott. "Defeat" is the exact correct word to describe this Afghanistan incident. Eight guys missing and sixteen guys dead in an engagement this size is a "defeat," a "loss," a "failure," what have you, even if only at the tactical level. <BR/><BR/>That's what the Pentagoons are talking around. One of our most elite units got in a firefight with tribesmen and lost. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120317643824148542005-07-02T11:20:00.001-04:002005-07-02T11:20:00.001-04:00Doug, I'll swing by and read the post. JeffDoug, <BR/><BR/>I'll swing by and read the post. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120317601876542702005-07-02T11:20:00.000-04:002005-07-02T11:20:00.000-04:00Scott--I'll thank you for one thing--use of the t...Scott--<BR/><BR/>I'll thank you for one thing--use of the term "towel head" was not called for. <BR/><BR/>And this isn't just about casualties--IMO, body count is not a useful measure of effectiveness in war. <BR/><BR/>The point is that a primitive force with simple weapons and comminucations capablities executed a coordinated tactic that that tricked, trapped, and destroyed a well equipped and trained elite unit. <BR/><BR/>That to me is one of the most important points to be made about this war and about war in general. Not only doesn't the "best trained, best equipped, and best financed" military in the world not defend the homeland from attack, not achieve our aims overseas, it can beaten at the tactical level by a vastly, vastly inferior force. <BR/><BR/>In other words, the force is a paper tiger, and Generals like Conway don't want the public to see that. <BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Huberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146644937683409726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12796551.post-1120266468340924782005-07-01T21:07:00.000-04:002005-07-01T21:07:00.000-04:00Re: hiding under the cover of white noise.I'm havi...Re: hiding under the cover of white noise.<BR/><BR/>I'm having my wife guest-blog a piece for me tonight on this, since she's the one who knows how to read ;o)<BR/><BR/>Karen found an interesting cached article a few days ago -- something written soon after the fall of Baghdad. Some military wonk was gloating over how "all the old rules no longer apply -- the US can fight and WIN a two-front, maybe even a three-front war."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, right.Douglas Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17554788570160506080noreply@blogger.com